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    How Did John Holmes Contract AIDS?

    Jury's still out. Reading the new INCREDIBLE Holmes bio, and it relates how there are many theories as to how the King got the disease. Well, he was afraid of needles, but did have many homosexual encounters, some in prison. Still, it's very possible a female infected him after he was released. But who? Any guesses?

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    Re: How Did John Holmes Contract AIDS?

    Most people agree that it was from Joey Yale who definitely had it when Private Pleasures was shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Lyons View Post
    Most people agree that it was from Joey Yale who definitely had it when Private Pleasures was shot.

    That's the theory in the Holmes book and the timeline they provide seems to indicate it's the most likely cause.

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    John Holmes second wife, stated in an interview that he didn't get it from Joey Yale, and that he got AIDS several years after filming The Private Pleasures of John Holmes. This was on the dvd of The Devil In Mr. Holmes. I don't know how he did get AIDS though, but he did sleep with thousands of women and men, so who knows who gave it to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Dennison View Post
    John Holmes second wife, stated in an interview that he didn't get it from Joey Yale, and that he got AIDS several years after filming The Private Pleasures of John Holmes. This was on the dvd of The Devil In Mr. Holmes. I don't know how he did get AIDS though, but he did sleep with thousands of women and men, so who knows who gave it to him.
    Which possess an even more disturbing follow up, how many people did he spread it to?

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    Which possess an even more disturbing follow up, how many people did he spread it to?
    As far as anyone knows, no one.
    He had it when he made films in Italy and no one on those shoots got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Lyons View Post
    As far as anyone knows, no one.
    He had it when he made films in Italy and no one on those shoots got it.
    Jeez, that would be nothing short of a miracle.

    I've never found a good article about the effect of AIDS on the porn industry. I mean when it first hit (or better yet became apparent), I can't imagine how damaging it must have been.

    If you think of just what happened a couple of years ago, I have to imagine it was far worse in the 1980s.
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    Exclamation How Did John Holmes Contract AIDS?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Lyons View Post
    As far as anyone knows, no one.
    He had it when he made films in Italy and no one on those shoots got it.
    And this ^ is absolutely startling, yet true. If John C. had actually sero-converted any of his partners (and he continued performing bareback anal sex in movies); this occurring so close to when the Traci Lords' incident exploded, porn might have actually been shut down.
    I continue to believe that John C. contracted HIV from intravenous drug use.

    (Compare this to philosophy's dirty little secret; when Michel Foucault learned he had contracted HIV, he flew from France to San Francisco and deliberately sero-converted many unsuspecting gay BDSM submissives. )
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    Re: How Did John Holmes Contract AIDS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian F View Post
    I've never found a good article about the effect of AIDS on the porn industry. I mean when it first hit (or better yet became apparent), I can't imagine how damaging it must have been.

    If you think of just what happened a couple of years ago, I have to imagine it was far worse in the 1980s.
    Not an article nor thorough, but some insight can be gained from the list here:

    http://rame.net/faq/deadporn/

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    Re: How Did John Holmes Contract AIDS?

    The amount of people who have died of HIV-related causes in porn pales in comparison to the workers in pretty much any other vocation on the planet -- even non porn acting. For instance, to date, I believe only TWO female (Lisa Delueew and Lisa Melendez) have perished from the disease. In 30 years?? Those are pretty damn good odds. And besides, Lisa got it from dirty needles AFTER she was out of porn.

    Seriously... take out the gay performers and the junkies out of the equasion and see if anyone doing porn has ever died from HIV/AIDS. There have been some who have contracted it (Marc Wallice, Brooke Ashley, Tricia Devereux etc) but is there even one that has kicked the bucket?

    I'd feel safer getting porn actress blood on me than any one elses, thats for sure. They're the only people I know that are tested for it every few weeks.
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    Re: How Did John Holmes Contract AIDS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Bougie View Post
    The amount of people who have died of HIV-related causes in porn pales in comparison to the workers in pretty much any other vocation on the planet -- even non porn acting. For instance, to date, I believe only TWO female (Lisa Delueew and Lisa Melendez) have perished from the disease. In 30 years?? Those are pretty damn good odds. And besides, Lisa got it from dirty needles AFTER she was out of porn.

    Seriously... take out the gay performers and the junkies out of the equasion and see if anyone doing porn has ever died from HIV/AIDS. There have been some who have contracted it (Marc Wallice, Brooke Ashley, Tricia Devereux etc) but is there even one that has kicked the bucket?

    I'd feel safer getting porn actress blood on me than any one elses, thats for sure. They're the only people I know that are tested for it every few weeks.


    One conspiracy theory rumor is that someone injected the AIDS virus into John Holmes while he was in the hospital,out of mere revenge for his involvment in the Wonderland murders in 1982.

    And as far as the three porn performers that Robin mentioned,folks who regularly following the happenings in the porn industry know that Marc Wallice infected both Brooke Ashley and Tricia Devereux(Mrs. John Stagliano)in the mid 90s,as well as a few other ladies who no longer work in the industry.

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    Re: How Did John Holmes Contract AIDS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robin Bougie View Post
    The amount of people who have died of HIV-related causes in porn pales in comparison to the workers in pretty much any other vocation on the planet -- even non porn acting. For instance, to date, I believe only TWO female (Lisa Delueew and Lisa Melendez) have perished from the disease. In 30 years?? Those are pretty damn good odds. And besides, Lisa got it from dirty needles AFTER she was out of porn.

    Seriously... take out the gay performers and the junkies out of the equasion and see if anyone doing porn has ever died from HIV/AIDS. There have been some who have contracted it (Marc Wallice, Brooke Ashley, Tricia Devereux etc) but is there even one that has kicked the bucket?

    I'd feel safer getting porn actress blood on me than any one elses, thats for sure. They're the only people I know that are tested for it every few weeks.
    Which of the two Lisas got it from dirty needles??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph F View Post
    Which of the two Lisas got it from dirty needles??
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    Re: How Did John Holmes Contract AIDS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Vitamia View Post
    Jury's still out. Reading the new INCREDIBLE Holmes bio,
    What's the title of the book?

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    "John Holmes, a Life Measured in Inches"
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