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    Scandalo/Submission (Samperi, Storraro & Nero 1976) The most erotic film ever?

    I added the question mark because I get annoyed when people make blanket statements like "Worst film of all-time." To me, however, I have never seen a film that was so well made on so many levels while pursuing such jaw-dropping territory. I had to give this Italian (French?) film props here because it really deserves to be seen even though it doesn't appear to be on DVD (I watched an OOP Prism VHS) and has a scant 70 votes on IMDB. This lack of a following surprises me because:

    1) it features Franco Nero in the slimiest non-violent role I have ever seen him in.
    2) memorable camerawork by Storraro which employs a Bava-like strobe at the end to heartbreaking/blood-chilling effect.
    3) director Salvatore Samperi has had other more available erotic films of note (Malice, Dark Side of Love), but I'd be surprised if others reach this pitch.
    4) the film manages other levels (dominance/submission games of a personal and international level) by setting the film in WW2 France, but this never distracts the film from its main focus.
    5) The main focus is a love affair (without the love), between a married shop-owner and her errand boy. Nothing new there, but I love how this film shifts on a dime, making us laugh at Nero testing the waters with his boss just before he turns the tables on her, sending her on a downward spiral into sexual perversion that results in the greatest sacrifice of all, and it isn't death (that would be too easy.) I don't wish to give anything away, but if you get off on situational fantasies of submission (not just rape or pretty faces) then much of this will play like those fantasies realized, although it is also very upsetting and heartbreaking at the same time.

    A film like Emanuelle's Revenge may have more pornographic material and a kinkier idea of S & M, but this film is so well made (even down to its great score) that its claws go in far deeper and I won't be forgetting it anytime soon. Anyone else seen it?

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    Re: Scandalo/Submission (Samperi, Storraro & Nero 1976) The most erotic film ever?

    I used to own 3 reels of this in 35mm, and watched it with some friends once. We dug it, like a WWII 9 1/2 WEEKS. Sadly, I think I lost them in a move; still kicking myself over it.
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    Re: Scandalo/Submission (Samperi, Storraro & Nero 1976) The most erotic film ever?

    If someone were to see the first 45 minutes of the film (I don't remember what 3 reels amounts to) then I can totally see the film resembling a not too radical early run-through for 9 1/2 weeks. But then after she is forced on a midnight walk in the buff she reaches a place where she is totally willing to submit and he naturally has to up the ante. To be honest, what he asks for is no surprise, but the way it comes out and how the rest of the film plays out is extremely disturbing and maybe equally as erotic. That is the odd thing with this film, I have seen films where the film becomes too disturbing to be a turn on but this one somehow finds a balance. Maybe I'm just a lightweight in the world of erotic cinema, for instance the sex scene in Dead Calm always stood out as a pinnacle of some sort.

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    Re: Scandalo/Submission (Samperi, Storraro & Nero 1976) The most erotic film ever?

    I was going to start a thread on Salvatore Samperi, a highly regarded director in Italy but virtually unknown outside the country, but I think I'll piggy-back on this one.

    Samperi's most famous film is "Malizia" a black comedy featuring Laura Antonelli as a maid who seduces both her widower employer and her employer's virginal teenage son (after the latter tries to sexually blackmail her, but has the tables turned). It features the iconic low-angle shot of Antonelli on a ladder from in her sexy maid outfit, and it inspired all the subsequent Italian sex comedies and comedy/dramas and perhaps even, to some extent, 80's American teen sex comedies (via the Sylvia Kristel film "Private Lessons", which is virtually a re-make). Yet, it has received little love outside Italy--it is available only on VHS and is HORRIBLY dubbed.

    "Nene" looks much better, but is only available in Italian as far as I know. This is another quasi-incest movie involving a young boy and his older, orphaned, sexually curious female cousin. The very pretty Italian actress Leanora Fani plays the cousin. Future porn star Paoloa Senatore plays the boy's mother and it is by far her CLASSIEST film.

    "The Smell of Flesh" Samperi only produced, but it is similar to his other work. It combines two popular Italian stories--a poor Italian-American immigrant returns to rural Sicily where he is considered a rich man (since he has experienced indoor plumbing), and he starts an illicit affair with his sexy (non-blood-related) niece played by Eleanora Giorgi. You can definitely see from this second story the darker, more perverse influence of Samperi, but this is a much lighter comedy. Unfortunately, I've only seen an awful, awful dubbed English download of this (with electronic Portugese subtitles).

    Finally, there's a "Scandalo" which has already been described here. This is actually the second time the incredibly sexy and very talented Lisa Gastoni played a middle-aged mother who is passed over by her brutish male lover for her teenage daughter (she played a similar role in Fernando DiLeo's "The Seduction"). This is more serious and less exploitative though. It is VERY sexy as others have said mainly due to Gastoni who does some very brave full-frontal (in every sense of the word) emotional drama here(even if she's about the least likely middle-aged woman to ever be passed over for anybody). Franco Nero is also great playing totally against type as a slimy villain, taking sexual advantage of lonely, desperate woman during wartime. Unfortunately, the version I have of this has English subtitles that are SO bad I don't think they were even generated by a human being (maybe a malfunctioning computer program), but if so, it was certainly someone with NO grasp of English.

    I haven't finished watching "The Dark Side of Love", but it fits the pattern (beautiful actress Monica Guerritori, brother-sister incest, horribly wretched dubbing). Samperi definitely deserves a lot better. . .
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    Re: Scandalo/Submission (Samperi, Storraro & Nero 1976) The most erotic film ever?

    I'll resurrect this thread AGAIN since I just saw two more interesting Samperi movies. I won't bore anyone further with "Kill the Fatted Calf", but check it out if you want to see a giallo alla'Samperi.

    It turns out Samperi's most English-friendly film is the gay-themed "Ernesto" which is actually available in Italian with decent English-subtitles (albeit only on VHS). Michele Placido, who I consider on the most underrated of the Italian actors plays an older gay man who falls in love with the kinda blank younger street-hustler protagonist. The typical Samperi quasi-incest angle comes into it though where the protagonist also becomes heterosexually involved with a pair of identical twins, both played by Lara Wendel, who was in "Tenebrae" and "Desideria" (and an infamous earlier Italian co-production that is so notorious even I don't want to see it). Anyway, it's typically twisted, but well made. I think Samperi is definitely deserving of an English-friendly DVD set. . .

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    Re: Scandalo/Submission (Samperi, Storraro & Nero 1976) The most erotic film ever?

    Love MALIZIA (saw it at a drive-in).

    As for SCANDALO, it's a masterpiece (in its own way).

    The NENE dvd has no subs, but not a bad transfer.

    The Italians have also made a shitload of incest-themed hardcore flicks.

    Some in my blog here:

    http://phantomofpulp.blogspot.com/20...explosion.html

    Samperi and Salieri both Italian directors of serious note.

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    MALIZIA is a sleazeploitation classic!

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