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jack p sampson
09-26-2010, 02:39 PM
I was shocked by how incoherent everything in there is now.I used to access it everyday for film info but now its totally changed for the worst.

Gordon B
09-26-2010, 02:45 PM
If you want the original look back, you have to sign in and go to 'site preferences,' in you account, click the first two boxes and click "original" in the last. Lately, however, the new site comes up regardless, and if you want to view the old one you have to sign in, otherwise, if you're not, you seem to be stuck with the new look.

jack p sampson
09-26-2010, 04:24 PM
Thanks Gordon! Have a good week!

John K
09-26-2010, 04:54 PM
Yeah, this new version is terrible. I hope there's enough outcry that they change it back.

cworkman
09-26-2010, 04:58 PM
I hate it too; it stinks. And I don't have an account with them and don't want one. Talk about making things a lot more cumbersome.

Thomas Wood
09-26-2010, 06:37 PM
Thanks Gordon, for some reason I never thought of checking the preferences. I always keep myself logged in so I shouldn't have a problem with it reverting.

Robin Bougie
09-27-2010, 01:52 AM
It is change for the sake of change, and not change for the sake of making something better. As far as I can tell so far, nearly all of the new features make it harder and more time consuming to navigate.

The new IMDB overhaul is a resounding failure. They won't change it back, but I hope enough people gripe about it to them to make them want to change it again -- hopefully for the better this time.

Fred Anderson
09-27-2010, 03:51 AM
I have no problem at all with the new one. Still simple and easy to use. In a couple of weeks everyone here will say the same thing. It's the same thing everytime a homepage changes it's design.

Jim R.
09-27-2010, 06:26 AM
Oh yeah? Try finding THE OGRE on Lamberto Bava's credits. It's not there. Why?

There's a 1981 ALICE'S ADVENTURES IN WONDERLAND TV special that originally aired on CBS, then on Nickelodeon in 1989. No website, not IMDb, not Wikipedia, no one, will acknowledge the existence of this cartoon. Why?

Troy Howarth
09-27-2010, 07:22 AM
I hate the new design. It's ugly, and it's much harder to navigate, IMO. Is signing up for an account free?

Troy Howarth
09-27-2010, 07:25 AM
Oh yeah? Try finding THE OGRE on Lamberto Bava's credits. It's not there. Why?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095775/

John G.
09-27-2010, 09:40 AM
They won't change it back
Why is that? It's a shame if they don't because the new version sucks.

Gordon B
09-27-2010, 11:11 AM
Is signing up for an account free?

Completely.

Troy Howarth
09-27-2010, 11:13 AM
Oh well, that's easy enough then. Funnily enough, sometimes when I check it looks like the old setup, and other times it looks like the new one... weird.

Gordon B
09-27-2010, 11:22 AM
Yeah, it does that. And, it is weird.

Andrew Ellis
09-27-2010, 12:36 PM
The only thing I've noticed is that they've tried to give English titles to all the foreign movies, so then you often can't find them very easily under the original the foreign title. Or if you're looking under an alternate English title, you often can't find them at all.

I did have a different problem several months ago when I was trying to review Alberto Cavallone's "Being Captured-the Babysitter", but they kept rejecting my reviews for being "too offensive". Well, Jesus, have you seen the movie?! If a three-paragraph printed review offends you, maybe that's a good indication you shouldn't watch the movie, huh? The IMDB is really this odd combination of the Blockbuster "family values" mentality and a free-speech libertarianism that even I find a little extreme (i.e. they list Traci Lords' "back catalog" even though those films are considered child pornography in the US and the UK).

Troy Howarth
09-27-2010, 12:57 PM
The alternate titles is a fair point - I, too, have had some difficulty finding certain films. But generally they will pull up films with similar titles, so you can generally find what you're looking for. I think they should have ALL films included - porn or not... even stuff like the Lords films. Simply acknowledging their existence isn't tantamount to endorsing them or anything, so as a resource it really should have every title imaginable.

RichardDoyle
09-27-2010, 04:11 PM
If you want the original look back, you have to sign in and go to 'site preferences,' in you account, click the first two boxes and click "original" in the last. Lately, however, the new site comes up regardless, and if you want to view the old one you have to sign in, otherwise, if you're not, you seem to be stuck with the new look.

That "original" setting is to display the original default names. They changed it so foreign titles now default to an English title, but the title they picked as the new default is extremely unreliable. There's no setting to undo their new look.

RichardDoyle
09-27-2010, 04:12 PM
Oh yeah? Try finding THE OGRE on Lamberto Bava's credits. It's not there. Why?

Because it's an episode of a TV series, not a movie.

RichardDoyle
09-27-2010, 04:13 PM
Oh well, that's easy enough then. Funnily enough, sometimes when I check it looks like the old setup, and other times it looks like the new one... weird.

It does that to me at work, but never at home. I think it's because I have not updated Firefox to the newest version at work.

RichardDoyle
09-27-2010, 04:19 PM
The only thing I've noticed is that they've tried to give English titles to all the foreign movies, so then you often can't find them very easily under the original the foreign title. Or if you're looking under an alternate English title, you often can't find them at all.

I did have a different problem several months ago when I was trying to review Alberto Cavallone's "Being Captured-the Babysitter", but they kept rejecting my reviews for being "too offensive". Well, Jesus, have you seen the movie?! If a three-paragraph printed review offends you, maybe that's a good indication you shouldn't watch the movie, huh? The IMDB is really this odd combination of the Blockbuster "family values" mentality and a free-speech libertarianism that even I find a little extreme (i.e. they list Traci Lords' "back catalog" even though those films are considered child pornography in the US and the UK).

I had some correspondence with them over this issue when I was trying to get them to fix a few glaringly wrong titles they had as the defaults ... "Videodrome" was defaulting to the title "Zonekiller", for example.

The problem is that they are defaulting to titles that have particular attributes, but they used to allow the submission of alternate titles with no attributes at all. Many many many English titles were entered that way. They told me they had plans to do a mass data correction to fix the issue.

I think their new design is really a massive failure. They've made it more difficult to do many common task on the site, in favour of a sleeker design with more graphics. It doesn't strike me that usability was a priority

John M. Bernhard
09-27-2010, 04:40 PM
If you want the original look back, you have to sign in and go to 'site preferences,' in you account, click the first two boxes and click "original" in the last. Lately, however, the new site comes up regardless, and if you want to view the old one you have to sign in, otherwise, if you're not, you seem to be stuck with the new look.

This worked for me, thank you so much for this helpful share of info:)

John M. Bernhard
09-27-2010, 04:45 PM
Still, the site is jocked. Try to find the David Hemmings / Andrea Rau sexploitation classic BEYOND EROTICA and you can't because it's under LOLA. It really does defeat one of the sites most useful functions, that of finding films under alternate titles.

Andrew Ellis
09-27-2010, 09:33 PM
I told this story before, but there is an obscure Italian movie called "Perche si Ucciodono". The new IMDB title is "Percy Is Killed". Now I can't translate that exactly, but I DO know that "Perche" means "why" in Italian and that there's no character named "Percy" in the movie.

As for the libertarian vs. "family values" issue, I don't care, but I wish they'd pick one. If they're going to list disgusting, vile movies on their website in the interest of free speech then they shouldn't have a problem with people writing disgusting, vile reviews of them. I've had a few reviews deleted for "abuse", and it wasn't because I personally insulted the filmmakers, it was because I was too cavalier about rape or something while reviewing, say,"The Abductors", a movie that is VERY cavalier about rape. If my review "abused" the poor sensitive soul who read it, I can only imagine what the movie itself did. . .

D.Wilt
09-27-2010, 10:24 PM
Adding my thanks to the suggestion that I update "preferences," seems to have worked.

I thought I was seeing a mix of old/new format because some old titles weren't "converted" yet.

The English title/original title thing is irritating., but the "original" seems to have fixed that too (true, you can always search by either one, but I was looking at a display of Massimo Girotti's acting credits in the "new" IMDB and there was no rhyme or reason, half the titles were translated and half were not).

I have had mixed success reporting corrections to IMDB, and I gave up. You would think they'd make it easier, but I suppose they don't want to get into a Wikipedia deal where anyone can change anything, at least temporarily. Still very cumbersome though.

cworkman
09-27-2010, 11:18 PM
It still stinks. Where before you could look at a person's complete filmography in one fell swoop, you now have to click on multiple screens and toggle back and forth between them. That is both annoying and more time consuming. No thank you, IMDB!

John K
09-27-2010, 11:56 PM
As for the libertarian vs. "family values" issue, I don't care, but I wish they'd pick one. If they're going to list disgusting, vile movies on their website in the interest of free speech then they shouldn't have a problem with people writing disgusting, vile reviews of them. I've had a few reviews deleted for "abuse", and it wasn't because I personally insulted the filmmakers, it was because I was too cavalier about rape or something while reviewing, say,"The Abductors", a movie that is VERY cavalier about rape. If my review "abused" the poor sensitive soul who read it, I can only imagine what the movie itself did. . .

This is funny, considering I nearly destroyed my soul last night reading reviews of TRACES OF DEATH and FACES OF GORE on IMDB out of morbid curiosity. I'd say they should spend less time policing their reviews and more time policing their forums...

Robin Bougie
09-28-2010, 06:48 AM
The IMDB is really this odd combination of the Blockbuster "family values" mentality and a free-speech libertarianism that even I find a little extreme (i.e. they list Traci Lords' "back catalog" even though those films are considered child pornography in the US and the UK).

How is it extreme or a manner of Libertarianism to acknowledge the existence of movies that exist? That is more like realism.

It's not like they're selling the films. And besides, what is the alternative? Pretending that a large portion of the adult films made in the early 80s never happened? You would have huge gaps in many 80s porn stars filmographies, which would negate the point of even having them.

Speaking of which, I think there is a feature that turns off adult movies from showing up in the results whatsoever, so if it is that big of an issue for anyone, they can toggle that.

Grant W
09-28-2010, 02:50 PM
They've messed about with it for no particular reason and it looks shit. If its not broke don't fix it, dulltards.

Andrew Ellis
09-29-2010, 07:28 PM
I don't know, Robin, that's a tough one. But I was really complaining more about the inconsistency, about them censoring my "offensive" review of "The Babysitter-Being Captured" (no Traci Lords in that, just healthy adult things like perverted dwarves, S-and-M, forced enemas, etc.) . I'm not offended they list those Lord's titles per se. It just surprises me because they're so blue-nosed at other times. And there is such a switch--I just have it turned off (or on?) because I certainly don't want to screen out ALL the adult titles.

But back on topic, one other thing that annoys me about the new site (it's kind of petty I guess) is by the comments there's now an icon that says "read all MY reviews". I hate people using the word "my" referring to me when they're not me (if that makes any sense). I really think they overuse the word "my" these days anyway ("my computer", "my documents", "MySpace"). It's like they're trying to force everyone to be as self-centered and self-absorbed as possible.