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Andrew Ellis
09-23-2010, 12:39 PM
Due to my ongoing interest in 70's/80' slasher movies and a more recent interest in 70's/80's sex comedies (now that my 80's nausea has turned into nostalgia, or at least, nausea-stalgia), I 've taken an interest in summer camp movies, which if you think about it spanned both horror (Friday the 13th, The Burning, Madman, Sleepaway Camp) AND sex comedies, which are the ones I'm mostly watching now since I've seen all the horrors.

These movies are all sorely lacking the presence of "Jason", who would certainly kill off the more annoying male characters pretty quickly and the annoying female characters after they got naked. Still, they're not all bad. I never got to go to summer camp, but it seems like the people there should mostly be children, but in all these movies they're horny, and often suspiciously mature-looking, "teenagers". The two classics are probably "Meatballs" and "Little Darlings" (the latter seems rather unavailable on DVD, perhaps due to music rights or underage cigarette smoking?). Troma's "The First Turn-On" is marginally funny (the "virginal campers" average 25, one of them is a former Penthouse Pet, and another is Vincent D'nofrio). "Summer Camp" with Linnaea Quigley is not funny at all, but those two movies both have lots of nudity at least. "Gorp" is not funny at all and has no nudity, but it has an all-star cast including Dennis Quaid, Roseanne Arquette,and, uh, Fran Drescher. They all totally embarrass themselves (although Drescher's entire career was an embarrassment).

Years ago I saw, and I want to see again, "Summer Camp Nightmare". It has Chuck Connors in it and is kind of like "Lord of the Flies" at summer camp. Years later, they did a "Simpsons" episode very similar to it, except that was SUPPOSED to be funny. . . Anyway I'm forgetting some I'm sure, and I'd be interested in any recommendations.

Jonathan H.
09-23-2010, 01:25 PM
WET HOT AMERICAN SUMMER is, of course, a great summer camp movie not made in the '80s, but appropriately set in that time period. GORP, as you mention, sucks. INDIAN SUMMER is, from what I recall, a pretty good "camp reunion" movie in BIG CHILL mode.

FWIW, Fran Drescher is well-utilized by Floyd Mutrux in AMERICAN HOT WAX and THE HOLLYWOOD KNIGHTS, the former being a damn good film to boot.

Ray R
09-24-2010, 01:13 AM
While summer camp isn't the PRIMARY focus in it, Arthur Marks' THE ROOMMATES (1973) is a good cheesecake comedy/spree killer whodunit where four college coeds (joined by a cousin of one of the girls) head off to Lake Arrowhead for some fun in the sun during their vacation. One of the girls is a nurse at a summer camp and takes a somewhat sheltered teenage boy under her wing. From what I understand, DARK SKY FILMS is still in the process of restoring this lost drive-in classic and hopefully it will be out on DVD in the near future.

Marshall Crist
09-24-2010, 02:01 AM
While summer camp isn't the PRIMARY focus in it, Arthur Marks' THE ROOMMATES (1973) is a good cheesecake comedy/spree killer whodunit where four college coeds (joined by a cousin of one of the girls) head off to Lake Arrowhead for some fun in the sun during their vacation. One of the girls is a nurse at a summer camp and takes a somewhat sheltered teenage boy under her wing. From what I understand, DARK SKY FILMS is still in the process of restoring this lost drive-in classic and hopefully it will be out on DVD in the near future.

Amen.

OK, a major aside. For a while I was seriously considering starting one of my ridiculous threads, this one to be called "The Bitches and Bastards of Arthur Marks and Robert Vincent O'Neill." The premise was that both of those guys used to fill their movies with tons of unlikeable characters and soap opera villainy and melodrama. As far as Marks goes, if you are familiar with BONNIE'S KIDS or THE CENTERFOLD GIRLS (particularly the first segment) you know what I mean. These two guys would overlap from time to time, with Marks producing O'Neill's WONDER WOMEN and O'Neill producing Marks' BONNIE'S KIDS. I think perhaps it was O'Neill's magnum opus THE PSYCHO LOVER (which he wrote, produced and directed, and is chockablock with nasty characters like the philandering doctor and his alcoholic wife) that inspired Chris Marconi and Peter Carpenter to hire O'Neill to direct their ultra-soapy BLOOD MANIA, which is also full of low-lifes. I think to some degree PSYCHO LOVER provided the template for BLOOD MANIA which provided the template for POINT OF TERROR. Each one had elements of psychedelia, and each one moved progressively away from the horror trappings and closer to straight-up soap opera.

And speaking of Lake Arrowhead, it seems to pop up in these films a lot. It is in THE CENTERFOLD GIRLS and THE PSYCHO LOVER, if I am not grossly mistaken. I think it's also in DEVIL TIMES FIVE.

Getting back to summer camp films, the one I would most like to see is Chuck Vincent's SUMMER CAMP. Mainly for Verkina Flower.

Steven Millan
09-24-2010, 04:06 AM
WET HOT AMERICAN SUMMER is, of course, a great summer camp movie not made in the '80s, but appropriately set in that time period. GORP, as you mention, sucks. INDIAN SUMMER is, from what I recall, a pretty good "camp reunion" movie in BIG CHILL mode.

FWIW, Fran Drescher is well-utilized by Floyd Mutrux in AMERICAN HOT WAX and THE HOLLYWOOD KNIGHTS, the former being a damn good film to boot.


GORP,along with HOW TO BEAT THE HIGH COST OF LIVING(an unfunny comedy with Jessica Lange,Richard Benjamin,and Sybil Danning),practically helped kill American International Pictures(since those two films were their last theatrical releases)and drive the company to change its name to Filmways(and later Orion).

Steven Millan
09-24-2010, 04:07 AM
While summer camp isn't the PRIMARY focus in it, Arthur Marks' THE ROOMMATES (1973) is a good cheesecake comedy/spree killer whodunit where four college coeds (joined by a cousin of one of the girls) head off to Lake Arrowhead for some fun in the sun during their vacation. One of the girls is a nurse at a summer camp and takes a somewhat sheltered teenage boy under her wing. From what I understand, DARK SKY FILMS is still in the process of restoring this lost drive-in classic and hopefully it will be out on DVD in the near future.


I've seen this one on USA Network's UP ALL NIGHT,for it was everything the fans would want,including a mad slasher-esque killer on the loose and a student/teacher affair.

Marshall Crist
09-24-2010, 04:18 AM
Was pleased to see that the insanely wet and hot Marguerite Moreau from WET HOT AMERICAN SUMMER decided to bless the world with some nude/sex scenes in the film EASY, available for instant viewing on Netflix.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I met her once and made a complete fool of myself. I'm sure you are all surprised to hear that.

Jason C
09-24-2010, 08:54 AM
For the past year I've been focusing a lot on horror and sex comedies from the 70's and 80's as well. I really like the summer camp atmosphere too. I'd love to get my hands on SUMMER CAMP with Linnea Quigley.

Robin Bougie
09-24-2010, 09:41 AM
For me it is all about LITTLE DARLINGS with Tatum Oneil and Kristy McNichol. Two of my biggest elementary school era crushes teaming up to see who can lose their virginity at summer camp first.

An all time fave of the impressionable young Boug, and the dirty old Boug as well. ^_^
http://imgur.com/gk2Wx.jpg

Glenn JB
09-24-2010, 08:53 PM
I used to love 'State Park' (1988), I think I watched it three times in one day at some point... it's probably crap now... *goes DVD hunting*

Andrew Ellis
09-26-2010, 01:18 PM
Thanks for all the recs. If "Roommates" was made in 1973, it isn't really connected to the late 70's/early 80's summer camp films, but I still want to see it because I really like "Bonnie's Kids" and definitely want to see some more Arthur Marks stuff. I'll give "Wet Hot American Summer" another look--I'm not necessarily interested in more modern-day summer camp films (like "Happy Campers"), but as I remember that was actually parody of the original 70's/80's films. Like some 14-year-old boy, I pretty recently recorded "Easy" off a cable just for Margerite Moreau's nude scenes (I still haven't watched the rest of the movie). I didn't realize she was in "Wet Hot Summer", so now I have another reason to watch it again.

I've never heard of "State Park", but I'll have to look into it.

I did want to tell everyone (especially Robin) that if you happen to get Showtime, their "Flix" channel is showing "Little Darlings" in a week or so. The music rights on that are kind of messed up, so some versions don't have, for instance, that Bellamy Brothers song on the end. It will also be interesting to see what they do with Kristy McNichol's underage smoking scenes (which is almost as taboo in America these days as Traci Lord's underage pole smoking scenes).

Daniel M
09-28-2010, 03:19 PM
I found the LITTLE DARLINGS novelization in a used bookstore the other week. Until I scanned the cover, I'd forgotten it was from the same production company as John Hough's THE INCUBUS.

Those were the days...

Armando Hernandez
09-28-2010, 06:23 PM
I watched "Meatballs 4" the other day, it's okay. It has great T&A!

Marshall Crist
10-05-2010, 05:37 PM
OK, a major aside. For a while I was seriously considering starting one of my ridiculous threads, this one to be called "The Bitches and Bastards of Arthur Marks and Robert Vincent O'Neill." The premise was that both of those guys used to fill their movies with tons of unlikeable characters and soap opera villainy and melodrama. As far as Marks goes, if you are familiar with BONNIE'S KIDS or THE CENTERFOLD GIRLS (particularly the first segment) you know what I mean. These two guys would overlap from time to time, with Marks producing O'Neill's WONDER WOMEN and O'Neill producing Marks' BONNIE'S KIDS. I think perhaps it was O'Neill's magnum opus THE PSYCHO LOVER (which he wrote, produced and directed, and is chockablock with nasty characters like the philandering doctor and his alcoholic wife) that inspired Chris Marconi and Peter Carpenter to hire O'Neill to direct their ultra-soapy BLOOD MANIA, which is also full of low-lifes. I think to some degree PSYCHO LOVER provided the template for BLOOD MANIA which provided the template for POINT OF TERROR. Each one had elements of psychedelia, and each one moved progressively away from the horror trappings and closer to straight-up soap opera.


I forgot that the makers of BLOOD MANIA also got Casey Kasem to narrate their trailer. (He had done the trailer for PSYCHO LOVER.) Thanks, Jason.

Now, back to your originally scheduled thread.

Andrew Ellis
06-05-2011, 02:49 PM
I just saw "State Park" for the first time. Dumb film, but I really enjoyed it. It was totally off-the-wall, what with the monkey-wrenching "bear" and all. The lead actress (Kim Myers) looked very familiar and I realized she had played the "girlfriend" of the obviously closet-gay protagonist in the weirdly homoerotic "Nightmare on Elm Street 2". I was pretty familiar with the second female lead, Isabelle Mejias, one of my favorite 80's Canadian cuties (I've long been searching for this early 80's sexploitation film she supposedly did with Just Jaeckin and Anne Parillaud). She's actually a pretty good actress, which you'd never know from her role in this as a shallow, stuck-up priss who falls in love with a metal-head. However, she does end going all metal at the end and wildly jams with her new boyfriend's band and Ted Nugent! (I have to say though, if I were a left-wing environmentalist, I would definitely NOT dress up like a bear and run around the woods with Ted Nugent on the loose. . .)

It wasn't nearly as raunchy as I would have thought for a Rafael Zelinski movie, and what little T-and-A there is is kind of grafted on. However, the third female lead (Jennifer Inch) does give a haircut topless at one point (hmmm, that's not a bad idea for a chain of salons. . .). That was my favorite scene that DIDN'T involve the "bear" and/or Ted Nugent. . .

JoseViruete
06-05-2011, 06:39 PM
One of my favs... not really funny, but it's a quite unique movie. http://www.canuxploitation.com/review/oddballs.html
As for Little Darlings, one of the greatest immo!

R. Olson
06-05-2011, 10:04 PM
For me it is all about LITTLE DARLINGS with Tatum Oneil and Kristy McNichol. Two of my biggest elementary school era crushes teaming up to see who can lose their virginity at summer camp first.

An all time fave of the impressionable young Boug, and the dirty old Boug as well. ^_^
http://imgur.com/gk2Wx.jpg

This one needs to get a proper DVD release as well!

Andrew Ellis
06-07-2011, 02:03 PM
It's hard for me to imagine any highly publicized DVD release of "Little Darlings" what with the underage smoking and the twelve year old breaking into a condom machine and all, but you never know. . .

I just saw "Party Camp", the best summer camp comedy ever directed by a collaborator of Orson Welles (Gary Graver). It also features Billy Jacoby, one of the psycho kids from "Bloody Birthday" and brother of Scott ("Bad Ronald", Llittle Girl Who Lives Down the Lane") Jacoby. There's also Jewel Shephard one of the most talented of the 80's "scream queens" (kinda like winning a medal in the Special Olympics, I know. . .).

Next up is "Meatballs 3", one of the 100 worst movies ever made according to the IMDB. But it has Sally Kellerman as the ghost of a dead porn starlet who helps 80's pretty-boy Patrick Dempsey lose his virginity (like that's hard--where the hell were the ghosts of dead porn starlets when I was a teenager?).

Rob Balducci
06-13-2011, 01:59 PM
Meatballs 3 was terrible. It made no sense and was just a mess. That said, I need to see it again (I have an AVI file somewhere). It's been at least 15 years since I've seen it.

Meatballs part 2 on the other hand is one of my favorite movies of all time. It has a great cast (Richard Mulligan, Paul Reubens, John Laroquette playing a gay counselor, Archie Hahn and Kim Richards - before that Celebrity Housewives show) and it just oozes Eighties. The music, the Politically Incorrect humor (gays, jews, italians, fat kids - no one is left alone). Plus the character of "Meathead" is absolutely classic. The scene where he smokes weed is hilarious. Then the boxing match at the end. I need to watch this again.

Oddballs I've been meaning to rewatch (have an AVI file of this too). I saw it a long time ago and thought it sucked and made no sense. From what I've read it has quite a big cult following, being called one of the strangest movies ever made.

Rob Balducci
06-13-2011, 02:00 PM
Oh yeah, I should also mention Heavyweights, a kids movie about a Fat Camp. Seeing Ben Stiller as the fitness freak head counselor is worth the watch alone.

David N
06-13-2011, 02:05 PM
For me the best Summer Camp movie, and ive seen them all, is "PARTY CAMP", directed by Gary Graver. Tits, ass, slapstick comedy, its got it all.

Andrew Ellis
06-13-2011, 03:02 PM
I just saw "Party Camp". It's not my favorite (I prefer the ones that have a mad slasher involved, or the classics like "Meatballs" or "Little Darlings"). It has less T-and-A than something like Troma's "The First Time" or Chuck Vincent's "Summer Camp", but it does have that very 80's blow-dried-"rebel"-who-just-wants-to-PARTY!-taking-on-the-"establishment" theme going. That, and a college-age counselor who gives his teen campers beer and tries to get them laid. Ah, the socially irresponsible 80's!

I was wondering a couple things though. In "Party Camp", I think the blonde girl in the shower scenes (whose breasts make Jewel Shephard cry) is the same "actress" who was in "Sleepaway Camp 3" and has perhaps the most ridiculous sex scene in film history with Michael J. Pollard (and then gets beaten to death with a stick by Bruce Springsteen's skinny sister). I don't think she was credited in either movie though so I'm not sure.

More importantly though, I was also wondering if there's an affordable way to get hold of "Oddballs" and "The Roommates". I still need to see both of those.

RichardDoyle
06-13-2011, 03:51 PM
More importantly though, I was also wondering if there's an affordable way to get hold of "Oddballs" and "The Roommates". I still need to see both of those.

There's a used VHS of "Oddballs" on Amazon for $8.