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Jon Houghton
08-19-2010, 06:53 PM
just finished a double feature of Missing In Action and Rambo: First Blood Part II and it got me to thinking about both series in general. while I love both series, I don't know which one I prefer more. which one do you maniacs prefer? I've not seen the newest Rambo so I am leaving that one off.

Chris Kewley
08-19-2010, 09:35 PM
just finished a double feature of Missing In Action and Rambo: First Blood Part II and it got me to thinking about both series in general. while I love both series, I don't know which one I prefer more. which one do you maniacs prefer? I've not seen the newest Rambo so I am leaving that one off.

I've always been more of a Chuck fan over Stallone. If you had picked First Blood, Stallone would have won but Rambo...... not a chance. I doubt I'm alone but Norris's action output out shines Stallone's ten fold IMO, with a few exceptions of course.

Alfred Chamberlain
08-19-2010, 11:04 PM
I think that in the scope of their entire careers, First Blood & Rocky are better films than Chuck has ever appeared in, and I might even toss in Lords of Flatbush and Death Race, if we're being picky.

But to the spirit of your question, in the Cannon/action/commie-killing world, yeah, Missing in Action all day long.

I'd much rather watch 80's Norris than Stallone's entire career, but Stallone has had far superior peaks.

Horace Cordier
08-20-2010, 12:15 AM
4 years ago, it was a dead heat.


http://www.dvdmaniacs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=24716&highlight=missing

Jon Houghton
08-20-2010, 12:17 AM
4 years ago, it was a dead heat.


http://www.dvdmaniacs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=24716&highlight=missing

I did a search but didn't want to resurrect a 4 year old thread, but perhaps I should have.

Horace Cordier
08-20-2010, 03:59 AM
I did a search but didn't want to resurrect a 4 year old thread, but perhaps I should have.

Plenty of new members since then so maybe the tie can get broken now.

Daniel M
08-20-2010, 02:09 PM
I love Cannon in general and the MISSING IN ACTION series in particular, but the nod has to go to RAMBO. II and III are iconic to me; the special editions that Artisan put out a few years ago were well worth their five dollar price tags.

Jonathan Douglas
08-20-2010, 03:48 PM
Wonder who'd win in an all-out fight between the two stars, in his prime and perhaps still there's little doubt it'd been Chuck. Of the Rambo stuff I only truly like FIRST BLOOD (still an action masterpiece) and felt slightly disappointed in the two sequels, so I'm going with Chuck's jungle warfare here which is still a quite good and enjoyable Cannon fodder.

Jack J
08-20-2010, 07:01 PM
I think that in the scope of their entire careers, First Blood & Rocky are better films than Chuck has ever appeared in,


That he ever appeared in? Uhhh, I beg to differ: WAY OF THE DRAGON was heaps better than either of the two, FIRST BLOOD and ROCKY! :D

Aaron G
08-20-2010, 09:40 PM
RAMBO. II and III are iconic to me; the special editions that Artisan put out a few years ago were well worth their five dollar price tags.

Second greatest quote of the year besides 'go and shoot some herion!' ROTFLMFAO..

But even when I was a teenager I felt that after FIRST BLOOD the RAMBO series went down the toilet big time. Stallone started using more steroids, and I recently watched the opening of RAMBO3 and the fight sequence had all the rhythm of a Def Leppard record!!!!

MISSING IN ACTION was more sleazy and Chuck had better chops (sic) than Stallone, who'd just run around with his shirt off and poodle mullet, he looked more like he was looking for a Meat Packing District nightclub that an escape chopper!

Daniel M
08-21-2010, 09:03 PM
^ Thanks, you really know how to welcome new members to the board.

I'm a fan of both theses actors and both these series. My "great quote" regarding earlier budget DVD releases was referring to the fact that the Artisan editions of Rambo II and III (which retailed at five bucks and under) contained extras that weren't ported over to the newer Lionsgate "Ultimate Edition" DVDs.

But thanks, Aaron G. I'd heard that AVManiacs was a pleasant place for newcomers to post. Glad to have given you so much entertainment, keep up the good work.

Jon Houghton
08-23-2010, 02:56 PM
even though I bought all 3 Rambo movies as a set for $10 at Walmart, it would have been nice to have had more extras than just Stallone's commentary on First Blood. I am curious as to what he has to say about it, hopefully someone moderates it to make it interesting.

Jack J
08-23-2010, 03:18 PM
When you say "all three" aren't you forgetting the fourth one (http://www.critcononline.com/action.htm#Rambo2008)? :cool:

In my view RAMBO 4 is actually the best film since the first one. I have this set:

http://www.amazon.com/Rambo-Complete-Collectors-Ultimate-Special/dp/B0015XHP4A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1282587307&sr=8-1

which has quite a bit of extras on it but I don't know if the commentary track for the first film is the same as the one you've got.

Daniel M
08-23-2010, 03:24 PM
Jon & Jack - While the Lionsgate releases didn't port over many of the extras from the Artisan editions of II and III, it's my understanding that Stallone's commentary on the current LG version of FIRST BLOOD is new.

Jack J
08-23-2010, 03:30 PM
Thanks, Daniel.

Jack J
08-23-2010, 03:34 PM
While the Lionsgate releases didn't port over many of the extras from the Artisan editions of II and III,


So if I wanted the extras on the Artisan versions of 2 & 3 is this the one to get or are there different versions (of the Artisan releases)?

http://www.amazon.com/Trilogy-Ultimate-Collection-3-Disc-Collector/dp/B0004Z33G4/ref=sr_1_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1282588250&sr=1-2



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Daniel M
08-23-2010, 06:05 PM
Hi Jack - The Artisan versions of II and III I referred to were two-disc versions that had matching "Collectors Edition" stars-and-stripes banners running along the top of the DVD sleeve.

From what I'm reading, the single disc versions of II and III included in Lionsgate's boxset are missing many of the earlier extras.

Jon Houghton
08-23-2010, 08:03 PM
When you say "all three" aren't you forgetting the fourth one (http://www.critcononline.com/action.htm#Rambo2008)? :cool:

In my view RAMBO 4 is actually the best film since the first one. I have this set:

http://www.amazon.com/Rambo-Complete-Collectors-Ultimate-Special/dp/B0015XHP4A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1282587307&sr=8-1

which has quite a bit of extras on it but I don't know if the commentary track for the first film is the same as the one you've got.

I didn't forget the 4th one, they only had the first 3 in the set that I bought. I have yet to see the 4th one but really want to

Pete Bogh
08-26-2010, 03:34 PM
Rambo 4 is intensely awesome. You should definitely give it a shot!

Jon Houghton
08-26-2010, 03:52 PM
Rambo 4 is intensely awesome. You should definitely give it a shot!

I hear it is full of decapitations which are always wonderful. Maybe Sage's tastes are starting to rub off on the old man?

Jack J
08-26-2010, 04:11 PM
I didn't forget the 4th one,

I didn't really think you did but I just use every opportunity to recommend people that they go see it. :D

Fred Adelman wrote about it in his review on Critical Condition:

http://www.critcononline.com/action.htm#Rambo2008


Quite simply, this is the best 80's action film to be made in the past twenty years and director/co-scripter/star Sylvester Stallone has single-handedly restored my faith in American action cinema.


I tend to agree.