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Johan Melle
09-15-2002, 09:53 AM
Hasn't this one been released by Dutch Film Works? I couldn't find any information on this release, so I'm curious; is this the complete Spanish version or is it the same as the Image version which is cut by 10 minutes?

Michael Elliott
09-15-2002, 10:49 AM
I've read that it is the Spanish version. Get FACELSS instead. :)

Troy Howarth
09-15-2002, 02:04 PM
Get FACELESS instead? Haven't seen FACELESS yet, but ORLOF is good and essential viewing for Francophiles.

Michael Elliott
09-15-2002, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Troy Howarth
Get FACELESS instead? Haven't seen FACELESS yet, but ORLOF is good and essential viewing for Francophiles.

Well Troy, you are in luck. I slipped FACELESS into the package I sent you with the other Franco films. I wasn't sure if you had seen it and I was in a rush to get to the post office before they close. The film is in French only but is easy to follow.

I watched AWFUL DR. ORLOFF after FL and while I enjoyed it, to me it seemed like Franco was having a lot more fun with the bigger budget of FACELESS. I think you'll really enjoy the film.

Troy Howarth
09-15-2002, 02:19 PM
Cool. Thanks, Michael. Though the thought of seeing Telly Savalas and Anton Diffring dubbed into French doesn't make me happy. :)

Magnus Wersen
09-15-2002, 02:59 PM
FACELESS better than ORLOF? The film Franco did for a fat French producer to pay his rent? According to interviews Franco absolutely hated doing FACELESS which was more of a mercenary job than anything else.

Troy Howarth
09-15-2002, 03:03 PM
Franco also hates ORLOF, so the point is possibly moot. I've yet to see FACELESS, but it's strange that I've never gone out of my way to pick it up - especially considering that cast (including Diffring's last performance).

John G.
09-15-2002, 03:07 PM
Never trust an artist about his work. Mario Bava considered 5 DOLLS FOR AN AUGUST MOON to be his absolute worst film, but I thought it was a fantastic mystery and very entertaining flick overall.

Troy Howarth
09-15-2002, 03:16 PM
Bava had little positive to say about ANY of his films. He only publicly spoke well of BLACK SABBATH, BLACK SUNDAY, TWITCH OF THE DEATH NERVE and HATCHET FOR THE HONEYMOON.

Michael Elliott
09-15-2002, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by wersen
FACELESS better than ORLOF? The film Franco did for a fat French producer to pay his rent? According to interviews Franco absolutely hated doing FACELESS which was more of a mercenary job than anything else.


I wonder how he feels about his recent films then? I'm not sure if Franco was interested in paying his rent or not, but I'm sure he had a good time working with a budget at least.

Troy Howarth
09-15-2002, 04:22 PM
Actually, he didn't. He said it was too much money and too many people to deal with. He said he prefers making films with a crew of like 5 people.

Michael Elliott
09-15-2002, 04:32 PM
I find that kinda strange. Although, I was always kinda shocked that none of the Franco fans called this a sellout.

Even only seeing the French version, FACELESS is certainly in my top 7 Franco films. It was strange seeing Franco work with a budget. The film looks wonderful, although you can tell Franco still went with the "low budget" special effects.

Anyone know a good book on Franco and his films?

Troy Howarth
09-15-2002, 04:43 PM
A good one - indeed THE ONLY ONE - is OBSESSION: THE FILMS OF JESS FRANCO, by Christian Kessler, Lucas Balbo, Peter Blumenstock and Tim Lucas. It includes some terrific interviews with Franco, Howard Vernon, Jack Taylor and so forth, as well as an overview of his career, reviews, insights, etc. Alas, it's out of print, but you might find it on Ebay.

Michael Elliott
09-15-2002, 04:44 PM
I heard of that book but I also heard that it is selling for over $150 on Ebay. I believe there was another book just published but it's German only. :(

Joe L
09-15-2002, 08:54 PM
Just saw FACELESS. Pretty good, if an old theme.