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01-10-2003, 11:59 AM
I noticed in the review of the VCI Street Fighter set that mention was made to Diamond's version being superior in quality. Does anyone know if the Diamond version is still available and what stores are the most likely to carry it? Thanks.:)
01-10-2003, 12:01 PM
It's still in print as far as I know and I've seen it in the cheapie bin at Suncoast recently. The transfer on the Diamond disc is better than the VCI disc.
01-10-2003, 12:22 PM
yep, that's where I got my copy too and if you strike out there Poker industries will hook ya up. It's a beautiful transfer and a beautiful movie.
01-10-2003, 12:29 PM
Yeah, out of all the releases of the SF films, I still think Diamond did the best job with the A/V. Still, while they're cheap and easy to get (which is good), the fact that there are so many of them out there means we probably won't ever see it get the SE treatment it deserves (which is bad).
01-10-2003, 03:01 PM
Weird that Diamond would be the best out there considering they're such a budget company. But then again, I heard good things about their Kill, Baby... Kill too.
01-10-2003, 03:18 PM
Diamond is hit or miss. The SF movies were taken straight from the New Line laserdiscs, much like all the other releases, but the transfer on the Diamond one is as good if not better than the other ones out there. This is especially noticable when you compare the night scenes on say the Diamond DVD and the VCI DVD. That's where you'll really notice it.
01-10-2003, 04:07 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but is the Diamond version as "uncut" as the VCI version? Sounds to me like they're from the same source, but I want to be sure before I plunk down my hard-earned... uh, 5 bucks. ;-)
01-10-2003, 04:50 PM
Diamond it is. I've never seen these films so I'm very excited.
01-10-2003, 06:27 PM
Both versions are uncut as far as Street Fighter, Street Figher Returns, and Street Fighters Last Revege.
Sister Street Fighter is the US R rated version. There is an uncut version that was released in Japan with more footage but it's never been released over here in any form.
01-10-2003, 07:42 PM
What's the whole story behind Tarantino's role in arranging the uncut versions of all the street fighter movies (other than being a psycho chiba fan)? Did he have any role in the other Diamond releases?
01-10-2003, 07:46 PM
I don't think Tarantino was involved in these releases at all, as they're technically bootlegs. New Line owns the rights to the films and hasn't put out an authorized release on DVD yet (though they did do VHS and LD releases).
01-10-2003, 08:44 PM
Anyone seen the Brentwood Chiba set? I was going to buy the VCI discs but after reading the review I'm going to pass. The least VCI could have done is given them an anamorphic transfer. That there would have set them apart from other versions.
01-10-2003, 08:51 PM
Yikes! I though I read one time in Weldon's book that Tarantino had a hand in releasing the uncut versions of all the streetfighter movies. My memory sucks anyhow or maybe I just wanted it to be true.
01-11-2003, 12:15 AM
VCI couldn't do any transfers because they didn't buy ther rights. I BEGGED them more than once to at the very least get the Japanese version of Sister Streetfighter which is a FAR better film in it's harder cut and to include the original language track and subtitles on at least the Streetfighter film. The laserdisc had the original language track on there, I'm not sure about the sequels, as I never saw the other laserdiscs. BTW, the Brentwood 10 Faces of Chiba set, to my knowledge, is the only release on dvd to have an alternate Japanese language track so you can hear Chiba's voice. I'd also love to see a release of the three Sister Streetfighter films, as they got MUCH closer to the feel of the original series after the first one. I'd be willing to bet money that New Line will bring these out to go with Kill Bill when it's released. I know Crash Cinema is preparing something VERY special to be released around that time also.
01-12-2003, 02:47 AM
I picked up the Diamond double feature of Street Fighter and Return of the Street Fighter for only ten bucks (!). Street Fighter was great. Chiba is indeed a bad ass. Haven't watched Return yet. And the Diamond transfers are damn good. I was actually amazed at the quality for a budget disc. I might just have to pick up the other two Street Fighter films.
01-13-2003, 10:23 AM
Are the Street Fighter films overmatted or is the OAR correct? If it is correct, I gotta say that the films were shot kinda badly. Everything in the frame looks a little cramped. But they still kick ass!
How can companies like Diamond and VCI release Street Fighter movies if New Line owns the rights? Just curious.
01-13-2003, 11:58 AM
If I remember correctly, the films are presented 2.35.1 on the discs, and I'm pretty sure that's how they were shot. And I'm with Lynn, I really wish VCI had done more with the release and yeah, the other SSF films need to be released, uncut.
You've got me curious about the Crash releases, Lynn, can you drop some hints? :)
01-13-2003, 04:27 PM
Yeah, I would definitely buy SE's of the Street Fighter films as i only spent $10 on the two I have. An upgrade would be especially welcome since Return of the Street Fighter's climax takes place at dark and,while watchable, the Diamond disc certainly isn't as clear as it could be. I can't imagine what the VCI looks like.
01-13-2003, 05:28 PM
If I can find the time this week (and right now, this is a big if) I'll try and post screen shots for the series from Brentwood, Diamond and VCI and post them online for people, as there have been a lot of questions lately about it (which is good, more Chiba talk is always a good thing!).
01-13-2003, 05:35 PM
box set with commentaries.
01-13-2003, 05:48 PM
No shit? If this is true, then, well, I dunno, but I'll be super impressed! Do you mean commentaries with a certain actor involved in the films or do you mean directors? Or can you not tell me anything and I should just give up now and wait it out? :)
01-13-2003, 06:24 PM
you know I don't lie Ian.
"Do you mean commentaries with a certain actor involved in the films or do you mean directors?"
No comment, but I will say that they are going to start putting commentaries on their dvds. I've already written two text pieces for extras on two of their upcoming kung fu discs. As a matter of fact, if all goes well, I'll be doing a commentary or two for them in the near future. :) How's this for a scoop?
01-13-2003, 06:31 PM
This is definately great news! And yea, I know you're on the up and up, don't worry! Once details are firm, shoot me an email and I'll post it as news on the main page. I'm really glad to see Crash doing all this great stuff. First the wonderful Pagoda series, and now this! Definately great news.
01-14-2003, 10:39 AM
Okay, sorry if this is a stupid question but I am completely ignorant about Crash; do they produce R1 dvds?
I know almost nothing about Sonny Chiba. But since I love the two Street Fighter films I got, can any of you guys give me other Chiba recommendations?
01-14-2003, 12:16 PM
Yeah, Crash does R1 releases. They've released Golgo 13, The Executioner, and The Bullet Train so far in their Chiba collection, and there are reviews for all three in the review section of the site. All three are worth seeing, especially The Executioner.
Also, in various multipacks, Brentwood has released Karate Warriors and Killing Machine, both of which are great (but look like crap).
01-14-2003, 01:37 PM
Thanks for the info. :)
01-16-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Linn Haynes
BTW, the Brentwood 10 Faces of Chiba set, to my knowledge, is the only release on dvd to have an alternate Japanese language track so you can hear Chiba's voice.
This is true. I checked it out last night. There is a Japanese language track available on the Brentwood version of the first SF movie. If you check out the menu you'll see an audio setup button and can choose 'English' or 'Chinese.' The Chinese track is actually Japanese, and yeah, it's Chiba's voice, which is cool. Unfortunately there are no English subs available for this, and the quality on the Brentwood releases is the same as the VCI ones, and they just don't look as nice as the Diamond ones.
These films need a definitive release and I hope New Line will steup up to bat closer to Kill Bill's release date.
01-16-2003, 09:11 PM
"These films need a definitive release and I hope New Line will steup up to bat closer to Kill Bill's release date."
I don't think New Line owns the rights to the Streetfighter series anymore. If they did, they would have sued VCI, Brentwood, and Diamond into oblivion.
01-17-2003, 10:54 AM
That's what I was wondering about. How could those other guys release the movies w/out being sued by New Line?
01-17-2003, 12:01 PM
If the rights have expired, it's been recently, and as far as I know, they're still New Line properties. The PD release, I'm pretty sure, are bootlegs.
01-22-2003, 12:11 PM
Something interesting I noticed on my Diamond Street Fighter movie last night: if you hit play, the disc starts about two minutes into the film. You have to rewind to see the studio logo and some of the set up. In other words, chapter one doesn't put you at the begining of the film.
When I watched it before, I thought the film started with the guy practicing martial arts in his cell. It doesn't. There's a little sequence where we see Sonny walking down the corridor to the cell with the guard.
Good stuff. I'm glad I discovered this as I thought the film started rather abruptly.
Anyone else noticed this on any other budget discs?
01-22-2003, 12:17 PM
I can't remember how I got it to play properly, but I do seem to remember that happening. I think if you go to the chapter selection and select chapter one, rather than hitting play from the main menu, it starts properly.
01-13-2005, 07:24 AM
There is a new, anamorphic, release of the first "Street Fighter" in the UK (by "Optimum"). It´s a box set with "Return.." & "..Last Revenge" (not sure about their quality).
"The Optimum is based on a digitally remastered source of the recently restored original version, showing next to none signs of artefacts. It is significantly darker, but has great details and contrast, and while it also has ghosting, it seems only to be during fast movement.
It comes with the original Japanese 2.0 Dolby Digital mono track, which also has been remastered. There is no noise and dialogue is clear.
Both editions is the uncut version of the film, complete with gore and the famous X-ray inserts."
Yes yes! :)
edit: All seems to be available individually:
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?searchtype=r2title&searchstring=street+fighter&page=search (Play don´t ship to the US though)
01-14-2005, 11:32 AM
Holy shit, you can really see the difference in the raining fight sequences. I may have to pick this one up.
01-14-2005, 12:10 PM
They do look a lot better, but you might want to hold off for a few months.
01-14-2005, 02:21 PM
They do look a lot better, but you might want to hold off for a few months.
Hmm. Do you know something that we don´t? ;) I recall, that there were some rumors about the new US-releases? Or am I wrong?
01-14-2005, 11:32 PM
US releases are coming and they should be using different elements from the ones used on this set. I'd hold off.
08-07-2007, 01:11 PM
any word recently on anamorphic U.S. releases???
08-07-2007, 05:01 PM
In UK couple Sonny Chiba movie collections were released (dont ask me if it is uncut) such as this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Street-Fighter-Return-Fighters-Revenge/dp/B0007CTKY8/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/026-3609065-5166058?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1186516483&sr=8-1 and they re pretty easy to get for cheap via amazon or ebay (where I bought mine). else in Streetfighters last revenge, Reiko Ike stars as a lovely villain.
08-08-2007, 10:16 AM
thanks but im thinking quality on this one wont be much better than the Diamond one which I already have
08-08-2007, 12:47 PM
Have you seen comparisons? The UK discs of the last two films are LIGHTYEARs beyond the old laserdisc boots from Diamond. The first one is dark, but even then still better overall., as they've been remastered and 16:9 enhanced. The French disc is better than the UK, but of course no English subs. As for a US release, Image ALMOST had it done, but New Line was having none of it.
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