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11-27-2002, 04:22 PM
I am reading some of the works of the infamous marquis de Sade as he is one of my favorite writers, and wonder for those who also like his work, of what is a favorite story? Probably one of the three most influential writers and someone who has had an effect on literature and modern psychology, and continues to influence to this day.
11-27-2002, 05:56 PM
Bloody Pit of Horror
11-27-2002, 07:29 PM
11-30-2002, 05:08 PM
120 Days of Sodom, although I also like PITB, Eugenie de franval, and Justine, which I am in the middle of reading.
12-10-2002, 09:23 PM
Justine is such a tragic novel, where the main character gets every kind of misery thrown at her, and is about the power that nature has over all, even those who try to free themselves from this grip, but cannot, and unable to.
01-01-2003, 01:01 PM
two words. Klaus Kinski.
02-11-2003, 03:52 PM
Only De Sade story I haven't read are his short stories and Juliette, which I plan to get and read sometime this year.
02-11-2003, 04:07 PM
I love the ending to "Justine". Take THAT!
02-12-2003, 10:53 AM
Justine is the best I've read. I agree with Jess Franco's assessment of 120 Days of Sodom, that it is not so much a novel as a list of atrocities. Anyone who makes it 100 pages into that one deserves a purple heart.
02-12-2003, 10:16 PM
O.K., where's my purple heart.
I read 120 Days of Sodom in 120 days a couple of years ago, and that was an interesting experience. Other good De Sade stories, are Philosophy in the Bedroom, and Eugenie de Franval, which pretty much deal wth the same ideas and themes.
04-23-2003, 07:48 PM
Only a small number of De Sade's work exist as a majority of them were destroyed. A master at depicting the sexual psychology of his characters and the conflict between virtue and vice that is ever reocurring in his works. A major influence in differenet arenas of art that cointinues to upset people.
09-05-2003, 04:36 PM
What makes De Sade striking as a writer are there are no bounderies when it comes to the sexuality of his characters and how he deals with sexual/power/corruption issues. This is one of the main reasons why his work is controversial even to this day, and that his stories no matter how times may have changed, still pack a wallop in delivering something bold and daringly perverse with a feel of the dark side of the human soul/impulse. That's why his stuff is hard to adapt to films without making changes whether it be major or very small, because if done 100% faithfully, they would probably be the most banned films in the world and would land the filmmakers in the same predictament as De Sade when he wrote his stories.
09-07-2003, 01:56 PM
I'll have to say my version of 'Justine' is probably the best ;)
02-03-2005, 07:07 PM
An interesting writer who was ahead of his time.
Richard W. Haines
02-04-2005, 11:27 AM
I read all of his books in high school and thought they were quite interesting although I was aware I was reading the manuscripts of a mentally disturbed inmate.
03-31-2005, 11:17 PM
He seemed to incure the wrath of his mother-in-law who was a powerful figure and had a big influence in putting him in jail. His hatred of her is reflected in the stories Philosophy in the Bedroom and Eugenie De Fraval. A person whose life resembles something out of a Kafka novel. Very few have dealt with the darkest aspects of human nature(even in a over the top fashion) and yet with fascination.
09-19-2005, 05:19 PM
I have yet to read Juliette which deals with the story of the sister of Justine and I was wondering how is it compared to its companion piece. Favorites in order.
120 Days of Sodom
Philosphy in the Bedroom
Eugenie de Franval
Though I liked reading all four stories.
09-19-2005, 05:28 PM
Hmmm, bit of a threadjack - but can anyone recommend a good book to start on (preferably one available in the UK).
I've seen Franco's 'Eugenie - The Story of her Descent into Perversion', and hence am interested in 'Philosophy in the Boudoir', is it a good place to start?
Paul A J Lewis
09-19-2005, 05:32 PM
'Justine's probably the best place to start, Tim: there's a paperback edition I have that contains 'Justine' and a number of other texts by de Sade, including 'Philosophy in the Bedroom' (or 'Boudoir', if you're so inclined ;) ):
09-19-2005, 05:32 PM
I'll go with Salo has his most, er...interesting story, I wouldn't necessarily call anything he writes "favorites," if you know what I mean.
10-11-2007, 12:45 AM
I'm in the midst of reading the introduction pages to The Misfortunes of Virtues and am coming to believe that he was a victim of the times, both because of his class superiority attitude and the political climate. Like Justine, Sade was attacked at all sides. There also seems to be an exageration to what he supposedly did. The intro makes an interesting point between what he wrote and what he did. There are a few lines from the intro I find fascination. Including, "Sade's behaviour, however appalling it may now seem, was not much when it is further set against the horrific tortures and brutal public executions which were a routine part of the legal system, he seems a very unadventurous sadist indeed." So what Sade wrote, I feel was essentially reflective of the times in which he lived in. Other interesting lines like, "When he was freed in 1790, he did not run amok. He did not seize the unique opportunities offered by the Revolution to enact the atrocities which he continued to invent for the heroes of his books. The Terror which Robespierre achieved in reality, Sade merely imagined on paper" as well as the following, "But Sade's behaviour during his decade of freedom is not merely a chronicle of lost opportunities but typical of the contradication between what he wrote and what he did and believed." He seems/seemed to be villified unjustly. He also was very good in satire.
Randy Thomas G
10-12-2007, 05:16 AM
I think the limits of his pornographic imagination works better in the novellas like Eugenie de Franval and Philosophy in the Boudoir rather than in the epic novels, which become montonous. 120 Days is some kind of an achievement though, after it all other 'shocking' writing becomes pointless.
10-12-2007, 02:46 PM
I read most of his works in High School, I remember walking around with 120 Days tucked under my arm and reading it in the school library, thinking 'Thank Odin for illiteracy, if any of these people knew what was in this book, why I don't know what they would do.' No one ever hassled me about it other than the common question, "have you seen the movie Quills," which I always responded with a firm "no." I probably wouldn't be the bibliophile I am today if it wasn't for the work of the Marquis de Sade, he helped to fuse my teenage sex drive with intellectualism, which certainly yielded some interesting results. Learning is much more fun when there is sex and violence involved.
I still have yet to read Juliette, I seriously need to reread his work, I’m sure I would find it more rewarding now a days.
12-30-2007, 03:57 PM
Misfortunes of Virtue is a condensed version of Justine with a powerful ending. The brief reunion between sisters is bittersweet, but the ultimate fate of Justine is very depressing and very cruel.
12-31-2007, 07:19 PM
The most disturbing is The 120 Days of Sodom. But I wouldn't quite rank it due to it being unfinished. Justine is the most tragic, but I feel Philosophy in the Bedroom is the best represntation of the Divine Marquis and his philosophy.
01-03-2008, 06:41 PM
If the Marquis de Sade was alive today, and posting stories & making comments in an on-line forum, his "karma" would be in the negative numbers. :rolleyes:
01-03-2008, 06:56 PM
Bloody Pit of Horror
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