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Kenneth M
04-26-2006, 03:26 PM
The only two I've checked out were "Satanic Sickies" and "The Taming of Rebecca." So, I can't really give a top five. But, I am interested in hearing what the top five of this genre is.

So, what's the top five roughest "roughies?"

Randy Thomas G
04-27-2006, 01:13 AM
Born to Raise Hell (a gay roughie, but the most evil thing I've ever saw)

I've heard of this one a few times; can anyone comment a bit more on it? This is available through Pimpadelic Wonderland, which also carries the infamous Do Me Evil. Gay porn is obviously the last, largely unexplored frontiers for (straight) cult film collectors. Can any of our gay brothers inform us of what we're missing?

Mike Kitchell
04-27-2006, 03:34 AM
Over at BJLand either a clip or a trailer for that was uploaded; I downloaded it but haven't really checked it out yet. I'll give it a watch and can upload it to rapidshare or sendspace if anybody's interested.

Robin Bougie
04-27-2006, 05:34 AM
Not to derail the thread, but "The Anal Birth of Bert" is the craziest gay porn I ever saw. Total insanity.

Ed C
04-27-2006, 03:12 PM
The first (and last) roughie I ever saw was EXPENSIVE TASTE. More than enough for my fragile psyche :eek:

Robin Bougie
04-27-2006, 06:54 PM
The roughest roughies I've seen are: (in no particular order)
THE TAMING OF REBECCA (Avon)
A CLIMAX OF BLUE POWER
THE INTRUSION
SEX WISH
DR BIZARRO (Avon)
TALES OF THE BIZARRE (Avon)
WATERPOWER
FORCED ENTRY
KNEELL BEFORE ME (Avon)

"THE ANAL BIRTH OF BERT" is like.. well, it's this leather boy in a sex swing in a dark bar, and he's got all these other guys around him, and they are fisting him and stuff, and then he's groaning and moaning in what sounds like a lot of pain. Before you know it, his ass is giving birth to a very large (considering) plush Bert doll (yes, from Bert and Ernie) and he's handed the shitcovered doll as if it was a newborn, to cradle in his arms. The sound is very echo-y and disturbing especially.

Anthony Thorne
04-27-2006, 09:17 PM
You learn something new everyday. In this vein I'd also suggest folks look at the getting-hard-to-get JM Productions release MEATHOLES 2, a recent porn title from 'Khan Tusion' (who made the withdrawn ROUGH SEX 1 and 2), as it's by a wide mile the roughest, most sadistic regular heterosexual porn title (out of the take-your-pick dozens from guys like Max Hardcore and Rocco Siffredi) that I believe is available. The opening 45 minute setpiece features an Elizabeth Berkely lookalike being reduced to sobbing tears in an assaultive gangbang scene that goes on, and on, and on. Not your regular porn, and a notorious title down here amongst those that have seen it.

Joe R.
04-27-2006, 10:06 PM
Unfortunately, all DVDs of Born to Raise Hell from Bijou World have sold out.

I have it and it's very uncut...

Randy Thomas G
04-27-2006, 11:31 PM
There was a thread dealing with the 'best' roughies previously on this forum.

It's very informative and it's here:

http://www.dvdmaniacs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15266&highlight=roughies

The gay porn angle under discussion here is novel though. ;)

Anthony Thorne
04-28-2006, 04:44 AM
"DVD Maniacs... there's something new around every corner."

Alli R
04-28-2006, 07:49 AM
Did I take too many sleepy pills or did nobody mention Oriental Techniques of Pain and Pleasure?

I'm still new at the roughies but my list would be for now.

Waterpowr
The Taming Of Rebecca
Story of Prunella
Climax of Blue Power (from what I saw of it)
Oriental Techniques of Pain and Pleasure
Dr Bizarro (good old George Payne)
Forced Entry

I know there is so many more I need to see :D

Joe R.
04-28-2006, 08:50 AM
Did I take too many sleepy pills or did nobody mention Oriental Techniques of Pain and Pleasure?

I'm still new at the roughies but my list would be for now.

Waterpowr
Climax of Blue Power (from what I saw of it)
Forced Entry

I know there is so many more I need to see :D

Climax Of Blue Power is one of the best XXXs ever!

Jim Tomkins
04-28-2006, 09:18 AM
I've heard of this one a few times; can anyone comment a bit more on it? This is available through Pimpadelic Wonderland, which also carries the infamous Do Me Evil. Gay porn is obviously the last, largely unexplored frontiers for (straight) cult film collectors. Can any of our gay brothers inform us of what we're missing?

I'm not gay, but a five-minute clip can be found halfway down the page here: http://bjland.ws/weblog/2006_04_01_archive.html

Also buried in iMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0211972/

Michael C
04-28-2006, 09:31 AM
I've never seen an American roughie but back in the early 90s I used to sell German porn. The Slavesex and Pain series would wipe the floor with anything American in terms of brutality. If you live near NYC you can find these titles and more easily.

Andy Copp
04-28-2006, 03:42 PM
I've seen snippets of the German stuff and they are truly the most savage stuff I've seen. You'd be hardpressed to even call what's going on sex...not my cup of tea at all

Alli R
04-28-2006, 05:21 PM
Climax Of Blue Power is one of the best XXXs ever!

I really need me a copy :( I have seen all of it but the ending.

Alli R
04-28-2006, 05:25 PM
I've seen snippets of the German stuff and they are truly the most savage stuff I've seen. You'd be hardpressed to even call what's going on sex...not my cup of tea at all


oooo now I'm all kinds of curious.

William R.
04-28-2006, 05:34 PM
The German's are pretty hardcore, but the Japanese take the cake with the "weird". The cosplay, the puking and shitting into sandwich makers to make shuke omlets for business men... rock on.

In Brazil, rape is a big fantasy. It's like the 70s gutter cinema over there in some circles. I've seen one get made before and it's intense. The US today has MEATHOLES and SLAP HAPPY type shit that does absolutely nothing for me. In fact I find it a bit past the edge of my tastes.

I knew a girl who was into rape fantasy and had a list of demands to be followed. I felt like I was in a Palahniuk novel it was so absurd.

Matt A
04-28-2006, 06:04 PM
...the Japanese take the cake with the "weird". The cosplay, the puking and shitting into sandwich makers to make shuke omlets for business men... rock on.

I can't remember the title but I saw a Japanese tape once where a guy put a beetle or huge cockroach on his cock and a woman took both in her mouth. Later she had her eyeball licked and put real animal intestines over a man's erection before giving him a BJ.

William R.
04-28-2006, 06:25 PM
See. Fuckin' weird. If I could remember half the shit I saw in Shinjuku or what those Nigerian dudes had going on I'd write a book.

Randy Thomas G
04-28-2006, 07:38 PM
I'm not gay, but a five-minute clip can be found halfway down the page here: http://bjland.ws/weblog/2006_04_01_archive.html

The title sequence in this is obviously based on Kenneth Anger's Scorpio Rising. Certainly gets into some rough stuff right away. Pretty groovy soundtrack too.

Robin Bougie
04-28-2006, 08:01 PM
I'm talkin about Roughies. To me that means 1960's (THE DEFILERS), 1970's (DEFIANCE OF GOOD), and some early '80s (TAMING OF REBECCA) soft and hardcore "forced fantasy" stuff shot on film. Thats what I've always understood "Roughies" to be.

Savage and brutal shot-on-video modern XXX porn... isn't that classified as something else? I'm asking here, because I don't really know what to call it. "Rape porn" I guess?

Kenneth M
04-28-2006, 10:39 PM
Born to Raise Hell (a gay roughie, but the most evil thing I've ever saw)


Perfect! A friend of mine has a birthday coming up. Since he's married with children (obviously not gay), this would make the most perfect gift! ;)


Thanks to those who are telling of the "roughest roughies!" :)

Andy Copp
04-28-2006, 10:39 PM
I dunno what you woudl call that SOV brutality shit, I guess I would call it "sado-porn" though it rarely falls into what most would consider Sado-Masochism.

As for the German stuff you're curious about Alli, The stuff I saw was a woman with ropes around her boobs hoisted into the air and beaten, nails drivin through labia, shapes made with nails and tacks and forced into the flesh, a guy with buckets hung through hooks in his ball sac...pretty nasty shit. thenthere are the scat flicks which I don't even want to think about...especially the one that Roel sent me from Japan..not my thing at all...

But I'm with Bougie none of that is really "roughies" maybe we can call them "sickies"...

Andy

William R.
04-29-2006, 01:55 AM
I'm talkin about Roughies. To me that means 1960's (THE DEFILERS), 1970's (DEFIANCE OF GOOD), and some early '80s (TAMING OF REBECCA) soft and hardcore "forced fantasy" stuff shot on film. Thats what I've always understood "Roughies" to be.

Savage and brutal shot-on-video modern XXX porn... isn't that classified as something else? I'm asking here, because I don't really know what to call it. "Rape porn" I guess?

I define roughies as "adult films that push the boundaries of good taste through violence, sadism, and degradation". I think a modern day films can be considered "roughies" just as those from the golden age are. However, there is rarely any story or anything and more simply vignettes. Some have certain elements in common with the old Avon type sickies, but I'm with you in that I don't consider the lot of them "roughies" per se. Random acts of senseless sexual violence. I can go with the term "sickies".

Greg_Goodsell
04-30-2006, 12:15 AM
I'm sort of ashamed to admit this .... but thanks to the Amok Bookstore in Los Angeles I got an extreme S&M gay hardcore tape from the Cleveland-based biker gang the Skulls .... THE ANAL BIRTH OF BERT is the first segment -- and is BY FAR THE TAMEST THING ON IT!!!!!!!!!!

I also have BORN TO RAISE HELL. The first segment in the bar with extreme genital torture is unwatchable -- but the rest of it is actually pretty mild ho-hum S & M stuff .....

Robin Bougie
05-01-2006, 06:59 AM
I would like to see a roughie starring this guy:
http://www.bobaloorox.com/images/rodtrib4.jpg

Andy Copp
05-01-2006, 09:48 PM
I have a copy of ANAL BIRTH OF BERT that I got as a "gag" gift for a gay friend for Christmas, I dubbed it off cause I'm obsesive like that and dub damn near everything. But I think it is the same tape the Greg mentions as it had a bunch of other rough stuff after the Bert segment that I must admit I never had th enerve (or desire) to check out!

But to Greg G: Is the Amok Bookstore still open? If I ever got out to LA again I wanted deeply to check them out?

Andy

Andy Copp
05-01-2006, 09:51 PM
Bougie email me!!! I need to get a subscription again!

Andy

Jim Tomkins
05-01-2006, 11:08 PM
I have a copy of ANAL BIRTH OF BERT that I got as a "gag" gift for a gay friend for Christmas, I dubbed it off cause I'm obsesive like that and dub damn near everything. But I think it is the same tape the Greg mentions as it had a bunch of other rough stuff after the Bert segment that I must admit I never had th enerve (or desire) to check out!

But to Greg G: Is the Amok Bookstore still open? If I ever got out to LA again I wanted deeply to check them out?

Andy

Amok / Koma is still open, but they've moved about three times in the last seven years. They'll be at their new home on Wilshire near La Brea in a month or so.

Jim Tomkins
05-01-2006, 11:10 PM
I'm talkin about Roughies. To me that means 1960's (THE DEFILERS), 1970's (DEFIANCE OF GOOD), and some early '80s (TAMING OF REBECCA) soft and hardcore "forced fantasy" stuff shot on film.

What other '60s roughies would qualify, Robin?

Randy Thomas G
05-02-2006, 02:58 AM
The classic 60s roughies are the Flesh trilogy by the Findlays and the various Olga's Girls films. Some of the early Meyer films qualified as roughies then though they seem more tame today: Lorna and Mudhoney in particular. I'm sure Robin would know many more obscure films as well.

Robin Bougie
05-02-2006, 07:47 AM
'60s roughies are among my faves! I'm totally glad you asked!
R.T. is right, the Flesh Trilogy is totally aces, and that Olga series is campy fun.

Lets see here... 60s. Hmm.

The Defilers (Lee Frost. Generally considered the first Roughie)
The Debauchers
The Degenerates (1967... Andy Milligan)
Zero in and Scream
The Agony of Love (1965 I think)
The Animal (1967)
The Girl Grabbers (I just wrote the dvd liner notes for the upcomming SWV dvd version of this -- Robert Kerman (aka R. Bolla)'s first movie.)
The Big Snatch (1968)
Love after Death
Hot Spur (1968)

A Smell of Honey, A Swallow of Brine (1968) which some might not consider a Roughie, but I do. It's also one of my all time fave movies that SWV has ever put out.

I'm sure I've missed some since there were a bunch.

Joe R.
05-02-2006, 09:04 AM
Sort of off topic, but Shaun Costello sternly explained to me last night that he NEVER worked with Avon, he has NO idea as to what happened to Prinz/Davian, etc. and that out of the 15 films in the "Shaun Costello Avon Set" he only directed about 10.

Jim Tomkins
05-02-2006, 09:26 AM
The Defilers (Lee Frost. Generally considered the first Roughie)


If you count "Body of a Female", that came out in January 1965, whereas "The Defilers" was released in October of 1965.

John Ellsworth
05-02-2006, 09:48 PM
The Ultimate Degenerate
A thousand Pleasures
Satan's Bed

Robin Bougie
05-03-2006, 10:07 PM
"The Ultimate Degenerate" makes me SO happy. Very underrated Findlay movie.

Damian A.
04-05-2009, 09:36 AM
What is "Anal Birth of bert" ????
The title is just...weird...
But what's happened in that movie???
Lot of people says "it's incredible" but nobody says what's happened...

John Lyons
04-05-2009, 12:29 PM
What is "Anal Birth of bert" ????
The title is just...weird...
But what's happened in that movie???
Lot of people says "it's incredible" but nobody says what's happened...

A fat guy "births" a Bert doll out of his ass.
I believe it's from one of the Slave & Master videos produced by Steven Toushin in the early 80s. Check bijouworld.com

Kyle J
04-14-2011, 08:58 PM
this is a genre i have only just found out about and from the ones i have seen im loving it:)
so far i have seen taming of Rebecca, sex wish, water power and forced entry! going to try and track down some others to watch, the one im most interested in is born to raise hell 1975 but cant seem to find it anywhere same goes for anal birth of bert :(

Martin R
04-15-2011, 11:46 AM
this is a genre i have only just found out about and from the ones i have seen im loving it:)
so far i have seen taming of Rebecca, sex wish, water power and forced entry! going to try and track down some others to watch, the one im most interested in is born to raise hell 1975 but cant seem to find it anywhere same goes for anal birth of bert :(

http://www.revengeismydestiny.com/cult_movies_faggotry.html <-- second item from the top of that page. I just hope you know what you're getting into... and may God have mercy on your hole -er- soul.

Kev B
04-15-2011, 11:49 AM
A fat guy "births" a Bert doll out of his ass.



Now that is art. What kind of sick mofos jack off to crap like that? Wow.

Kyle J
04-15-2011, 11:57 AM
http://www.revengeismydestiny.com/cult_movies_faggotry.html <-- second item from the top of that page. I just hope you know what you're getting into... and may God have mercy on your hole -er- soul.

i think its too late for my soul :P
cheers for the link but last night i found this site http://www.bijouworld.com/index.php/DVD/Terrible-Trilogy.html selling original copy's of anal birth and if anyone is interested i can pm them the link of a clip of bert being born :)

Andrew Ellis
04-15-2011, 02:27 PM
Not to derail this (gay) thread, but I noticed these are all XXX titles. I've watched "Dr.Bizarro", "Winter Heat", "Defiance of the Good" and the cut version of "Waterpower" and I actually don't think those are the most effective roughies simply because the acting is not that good (with a few exceptions) and the long sex scenes kind of ruin the suspension of disbelief. I personally find "Last House on the Left", "The Candy Snatchers", and "The Night Train Murders" to be much more effective, although perhaps too mainstream to be considered "roughies". Stuff like the Findlays "Flesh" trilogy and "Take Me Naked" and Lee Frost's "Zero In and Scream" certainly are "roughies" though and I think they work better than most the hardcore stuff. Just my opinion.

Glenn JB
04-15-2011, 09:54 PM
I had a nightmare about Born To Raise Hell, the only time that's ever happened with a porn movie. I wonder why... :D

Jon Houghton
04-17-2011, 12:07 AM
The roughest roughies I've seen are: (in no particular order)
"THE ANAL BIRTH OF BERT" is like.. well, it's this leather boy in a sex swing in a dark bar, and he's got all these other guys around him, and they are fisting him and stuff, and then he's groaning and moaning in what sounds like a lot of pain. Before you know it, his ass is giving birth to a very large (considering) plush Bert doll (yes, from Bert and Ernie) and he's handed the shitcovered doll as if it was a newborn, to cradle in his arms. The sound is very echo-y and disturbing especially.

Sounds like something I will have to check out. Where the in the hell can I get a copy of it?

Martin R
04-17-2011, 07:09 AM
Sounds like something I will have to check out. Where the in the hell can I get a copy of it?

If you scroll up the thread a bit, there's two links to purchase it.

TBH, I think if someone uploaded a clip to a video service and spammed other forums with it, it could be the next 2 Girls 1 Cup. What about "One Guy One Muppet"? :lol:

Andrew Ellis
04-17-2011, 02:56 PM
How is "The Anal Birth of Bart" a roughie though? That's just modern-day gay freak-show porn.

I think of roughies as late 60's softcore porn that added an element of violence and sadomasochism. They'd also include some (mostly 70's) XXX films like "Forced Entry", and some of them kind of slipped into the mainstream as rape-revenge films. There were also "ghoulies"--films like "Mantis in Lace" and "Janie" that HG Lewis blood and gore into the mix. They were all fictional films though.

I'm sure some of you are a lot more into seeing people stuff weird crap into their bodily orifices then I am. Nothing wrong with that I suppose, but I just wouldn't call that stuff "roughies" personally.

Martin R
04-17-2011, 03:07 PM
Yeah, I think you're right: ABoB probably shouldn't be considered a "roughie". And no, I'm not into seeing fat guys stuff weird things up (or out of) their bodily orifices, the description is entertainment enough :D

Regarding "roughie", I would have said that it refers to a sex feature film, hardcore or softcore (and there were as many, if not more, hardcore roughies in the 70s, as there were softcore roughies in the 60s), with both a defined fictive storyline and a focus on violent and/or grotesque elements as well as sex. ABoB has the grotesque (and, arguably, the violence), but lacks a plot or fictional elements.

By the way it's Bert not BART... I imagine a Bart Simpson doll, coming out headfirst, would do a lot more damage :D

John K
04-17-2011, 04:58 PM
Sounds like something I will have to check out. Where the in the hell can I get a copy of it?

http://tracker.zaerc.com/torrents-details.php?id=13885

if you torrent. That's where I got it, a while ago. It even appears to have a seeder!

I agree, however, that stuff like ANAL BIRTH is completely irrelevant to the roughie discussion. Roughies are fictional, to be sure. It's too bad there aren't better terms for distinguishing the 60s, B&W softcore roughies and the 70s XXX roughies, though. They really are two quite different birds as well, though certainly related.

Jon Houghton
04-17-2011, 06:52 PM
http://www.revengeismydestiny.com/cult_movies_faggotry.html <-- second item from the top of that page. I just hope you know what you're getting into... and may God have mercy on your hole -er- soul.

Is their stuff out on legitimate dvd or dvd-r?

Martin R
04-17-2011, 07:01 PM
Is their stuff out on legitimate dvd or dvd-r?

I've never ordered from them, but I'd pretty much guarantee that you won't find a professionally pressed DVD of this movie anywhere, so I'd say DVD-R. ;)

Todd G
04-17-2011, 08:03 PM
Shocking Videos is a grey market DVD-R dealer. Bijou World is a legit company but also is DVD-R. surprised to see no one has mentioned San Francisco Ball in this thread - a softcore roughie from 72. its pretty much a kidnap melodrama where 2 women are abducted & held for ransom - then raped & carved up for what seems like an interminable length of time. if it had been hardcore it would have been completely unwatchable. Invitation to Ruin is another that just oozes sleaze. softcore roughies were still being made well into the 70s- Night of the Animals, Tomcats, the Good the Bad & The Beautiful, & i guess you could include the Ilsa films as they are a natural extension of the 60's Olga films.

John K
04-18-2011, 04:57 PM
I just bought SAN FRAN. BALL! I'll need to give it a watch. I figured it'd be hardcore, though, as it's a Dragon Art Double Feature from SWV. I know it got pulled, too. Any idea why? The violence in this film, or did it have something to do with the co-feature, TEENAGE (there's that dreaded word) SEX FANTASIES?

Allan Cope
04-18-2011, 05:05 PM
I just bought SAN FRAN. BALL! I'll need to give it a watch. I figured it'd be hardcore, though, as it's a Dragon Art Double Feature from SWV. I know it got pulled, too. Any idea why? The violence in this film, or did it have something to do with the co-feature, TEENAGE (there's that dreaded word) SEX FANTASIES?

Where did you buy this at? I have a great looking grey market disc. But would love to own that SWV release.

Mark Savage
04-18-2011, 05:22 PM
I can't list a top 5 as there are too many, so here's my top 10, not in any order:

Born to Raise Hell (a gay roughie, but the most evil thing I've ever saw)

I second BORN TO RAISE HELL. To make the experience even darker, I saw it in Times Square... at the 'New Christopher', I think. Boy, that was an experience. It was on with something called TIJUANA TOILET TRAMP. It's not all brutal, but the genital torture material is something akin to much grittier BME footage.

I'd also go with

SAN FRANCISCO BALL
TAKE ME NAKED
THE DEFIANCE OF GOOD
A CLIMAX OF BLUE POWER
FEMMES DE SADE
DR. BIZARRO
SLAVE SEX (series)
PAIN (series)
VIOLENCE (series)
TAMING OF REBECCA

I wouldn't consider vids like MASON'S DIRTY TRIXXX 2, ROUGH SEX 2, or Rocco's ANIMAL TRAINER series "roughies". Rough, yeah, but in need of another category.

Thomas Wood
04-18-2011, 08:39 PM
SWV dropped everything with "Teenage" in the title.

John K
04-28-2011, 08:04 PM
Looking on their website, it looks like TEENAGE SEX FANTASIES still exists on Dragon Art Double Feature 11, though it's now retitled RENE BOND'S SEX FANTASIES. It's not very interesting.

SAN FRANCISCO BALL remains missing in action. I wonder what made them pull the title?

Finally got to check it out last night. Probably a result of the little hype it's received here, but not as much time was devoted to violence as I suspected. However, that scene is sort of rendered all the *more* shocking for how out-of-left field it is. One minute it's a generic low-budget 70s hostage rape potboiler, and suddenly, one cut later, everyone's bathed in blood and screaming. It definitely is a bit of a shocker. Definitely more entertaining and interesting than a lot of storefront features of this sort, though honestly, that's sort of damning with faint praise. Glad I saw it, but don't know how often I'd watch it again...

Andrew Ellis
04-30-2011, 01:39 PM
I have Something Weird's old "Blue Book", and there's a pretty funny quote in there from an old Jewish porn distributor regarding those 70's "teenage" porn titles: "What do you mean 'teenage'? They ought call these things 'life begins at 40'!".

Something Weird should have just re-titled their stuff rather dropping it since the only thing "teenage" about them was usually the title.

Anyway, I just saw "Wrong Way" which is kind of like what "San Francisco Ball" sounds like except it mostly stays a rape pot-boiler with no bloodbath. (It is interesting to see a pre-boob job Rene Bond--she was very cute and didn't really need those implants at all).

Again though, at this level of talent and budget I have a hard time not seeing these movies as just a bunch of horrible, naked actors covered in red-dyed Karo syrup. They're just not that shocking to me because there is no real suspension of disbelief. But when I actually SEE stuff like "San Francisco Ball" and "Forced Entry", I may feel differently. . .

Randy Thomas G
04-30-2011, 01:57 PM
Forced Entry, at least the second scene, is much more authentically disturbing. The ending I found more goofy though.

Allan Cope
04-30-2011, 02:13 PM
Looking on their website, it looks like TEENAGE SEX FANTASIES still exists on Dragon Art Double Feature 11, though it's now retitled RENE BOND'S SEX FANTASIES. It's not very interesting.

SAN FRANCISCO BALL remains missing in action. I wonder what made them pull the title?

Finally got to check it out last night. Probably a result of the little hype it's received here, but not as much time was devoted to violence as I suspected. However, that scene is sort of rendered all the *more* shocking for how out-of-left field it is. One minute it's a generic low-budget 70s hostage rape potboiler, and suddenly, one cut later, everyone's bathed in blood and screaming. It definitely is a bit of a shocker. Definitely more entertaining and interesting than a lot of storefront features of this sort, though honestly, that's sort of damning with faint praise. Glad I saw it, but don't know how often I'd watch it again...

Considerign the films reputation I also was expecting more scenes of splatter. But that one scene definately crosses the line. But I wonder if there is more. The second rape scene at the friends apartemnt or was it her sister, with the two surviving thugs, looks edited to me. I wonder it the scene was hardcore. From the time they are on the couch and when they are on the floor certainly looks like an edit to me.

John K
04-30-2011, 05:54 PM
I agree - I noticed that too and figured the exact same thing. Why set that up and then not include it? Plus, they basically "hop" from undressing to dressing again, but it's not a smooth enough transition to make it seem intentional. I have the trailer for the film, too. I'll have to re-watch it. Can't remember if it contained anything that wasn't in the feature(tte).

d norton
05-12-2011, 03:58 PM
Femmes de Sade
Corps de Chasse
Born to Raise Hell
Taming of Rebecca
"Tales of Naked Humiliation 2" (it qualifies as a roughie? sure, why not...)
No Calor do Buraco/In the Heat of the Holes... I mean, all the Sady Baby stuff I've seen is pretty out there. How come there's no one clamoring for the Blu Ray of Sexual Emotions of a Donkey??? Let's start a petition!

First volume of Mutilating the Virgin is pretty rough, though with absolutely no plot I wouldn't rightly call it a roughie.

There were some collected volumes of HOM loops called Erotic Perversions which were pretty naff & nifty in the same breath. Some of those ABA "History of Rape" type collections were neat also.

But, of course, the real sickos are the Europeans. I've only personally scratched the surface of that stuff.

EDIT: Ewww, I'd been remiss in mentioning Sex Psycho. Neat!